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Game #25: @ UNCA - 75-72 Loss

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Game #25: @ UNCA - 75-72 Loss

Postby Sly Fox » February 7th, 2010, 1:22 am

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#23 John Williams
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby jcmanson » February 7th, 2010, 8:30 am

I hate losing to these guys, but we seem to be good at it.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby TDDance234 » February 8th, 2010, 10:47 am

Someone please guard Sean Smith. He's averaging 18 against us over his last three.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby Sly Fox » February 8th, 2010, 11:05 am

He's become the Swedish Assassin to us.

The good news is that the Bulldogs are one of the streakiest teams you'll ever see and they've dropped their last two.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby SCAR » February 8th, 2010, 5:43 pm

A win on Thursday would be great for Liberty's chances of finishing in the top 4! I don't have inside info but it would be great if Ohman was to make a comeback on Thursday.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby Sly Fox » February 10th, 2010, 7:13 pm

With all of the UNCA guys we have regularly on this board you would think someone would be talking up this game. I guess everyone is too cold right now.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby SuperJon » February 10th, 2010, 7:17 pm

Since no one else is talking about it, you can watch Jeremy and Coach Layer talk about it here.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby LUnpretty11 » February 10th, 2010, 8:28 pm

I cannot for the life of me figure out why ESPN went to that joke of a gym. Nothing personal UNCA.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby grm » February 11th, 2010, 12:50 pm

The BS always is competitive within, & this year seems almost impossible to chart. Like someone said.. "streaks"... then, "down-to-earth." Who knows what happens tonight? This is obviously
crunch time & I know everybody's blood is really pumping as we enter this section of the home stretch. Might be a long shot to make the top 4, with youth & the schedule seemingly working against us, but I wouldn't count the Flames out. I think, overall, Coach has done a great job when you consider how things looked coming in. We're in the mix right now, and that says a lot.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby olldflame » February 11th, 2010, 1:05 pm

SuperJon wrote:Since no one else is talking about it, you can watch Jeremy and Coach Layer talk about it here.


Maybe I'm reading too much between the lines, but I choose to interpret the "don't ask, don't tell" approach toward Kyle's status in this interview to be a possible indication he will play tonight.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby kingaling42 » February 11th, 2010, 1:12 pm

I'm sure KO will make the trip & potentially play.. especially with his physician/surgeon.. err I mean girlfriend's father here in Asheville & all.. He can combine a nice follow up visit, get possibly released to play & see what he can do.. personally I think LU is playing better without him, but what do I know??

BTW- the bigger joke was that Liberty got absolutely blasted on ESPN (which should be an alarming ESPN trend for LU) in that joke of a gym we call the Justice Center...
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 1:16 pm

KO has been traveling to all of the games regardless of where his doctor is.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby Chris Lang » February 11th, 2010, 1:40 pm

Layer was very non-committal toward KO's status when I asked him about it Saturday. That said, he did practice this week. And Konan for the most part didn't.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby SuperJon » February 11th, 2010, 2:10 pm

He's not going to play Kyle until he can fit in with the team. He's not just going to throw him out there for 30 minutes without the chemistry being there.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby Carter4prez » February 11th, 2010, 2:22 pm

I have heard from inside sources that the reason he has been practicing is to get some time in for this game.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby SuperJon » February 11th, 2010, 2:24 pm

Carter4prez wrote:I have heard from inside sources that the reason he has been practicing is to get some time in for this game.


If he can adjust to a role of "some time" instead "the man" then yes, you are probably right. It takes a big time mental shift to go from being the guy back to being a role player and fitting in. I have no doubt that Kyle can do it, but it's not a simple process of let's throw Kyle out there and everything will be great.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby grm » February 11th, 2010, 2:53 pm

Is it about 300 miles to Ashville? Will many LU fans make the trip?
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby SuperJon » February 11th, 2010, 2:58 pm

Not on a Thursday.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby olldflame » February 11th, 2010, 3:08 pm

Yes

No

It's just a little under 300 miles, and more than likely anyone there rooting for LU will be a local alum. If it were a Saturday, the chances of people making the trip from Lynchburg would be much higher.

Personally, I am excited about going on the "Beach Trip" to Charleston and Conway for the first time in a few years. BTW, thanks SJ for the heads up on CCU's games being sold out. Our basketball office hooked me up with passes for both games.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby grm » February 11th, 2010, 3:38 pm

It'll probably be a little hostile down there, gathering from what I have read about the size of the gym & all.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby Chris Lang » February 11th, 2010, 6:13 pm

I've heard they unleash live, rabid bulldogs to go after opposing fans and players during media timeouts.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby grm » February 11th, 2010, 6:25 pm

Chris Lang wrote:I've heard they unleash live, rabid bulldogs to go after opposing fans and players during media timeouts.


Let's hope they don't smell meat on the local beat-sportswriter.

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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby NG33 » February 11th, 2010, 6:28 pm

Chris Lang wrote:I've heard they unleash live, rabid bulldogs to go after opposing fans and players during media timeouts.


This is true. I've witnessed it with my own eyes when I went down there 2 years ago with some friends. Horrific, Unspeakable things happen to opposing fans at the Justice Center.. Things that can never be erased from someone's mind...
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby grm » February 11th, 2010, 6:56 pm

Lowell, Mass?

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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

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grm wrote:Lowell, Mass?

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Haha ya man all the way!! Where in New England are you from?
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA

Postby Sly Fox » February 11th, 2010, 8:01 pm

Audio Stream

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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 8:03 pm

Is JE alright?
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby Sly Fox » February 11th, 2010, 8:05 pm

I'm not getting the audio stream yet. What's wrong?
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 8:06 pm

Sly Fox wrote:I'm not getting the audio stream yet. What's wrong?


This is the 2nd game in a row where he hasn't been doing the play by play. Nick Pierce is on tonight.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:06 pm

I've got it... Nick Pierce on the mic tonight. UNCA misses their first shot of the game, Jesse runs the offense, but we're called for an illegal screen on Jesse.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 8:07 pm

Konan is playing
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:07 pm

Evan for three!

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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:08 pm

Charlotte High's own Chris Stephenson with a 3, and UNCA takes a 5-3 lead. LU misses a shot on the ensuing position, then we get a steal, but Jesse "double dribbles"
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby SuperJon » February 11th, 2010, 8:09 pm

Nick will be doing the rest of the men's games this year. Jerry is swamped with all of the expansion stuff that VictoryFM is doing.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 8:09 pm

Well we're off to a good start
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:10 pm

17:41 left. 5-3

Stephenson with another basket, 7-3, UNCA.

Pat's shot blocked, Primm scores in transition. 9-3.

Turnover, LU.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:11 pm

DJ Cunningham checks into the game, and promptly travels...

Evan with a J, 9-5.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:11 pm

JP Primm with a three, 12-5 UNCA.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:11 pm

JA misses a 3, they get in transition, and JA is called for a block. First Media Timeout, 12-5 UNCA lead. Evan with all 5. UNCA will shoot when action resumes.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby SuperJon » February 11th, 2010, 8:12 pm

The UNCA video feed isn't up. That sucks.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 8:13 pm

I don't know why UNCA would let Evan get a shot off.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 8:15 pm

They have 16 points in 5 minutes. Not much defense being played by us.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:17 pm

Had to answer an e-mail, and lost track of the action.

16-8 UNCA...

Carter with a turnover, then they turn it back to us.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:18 pm

Carter misses a three, and then a two. Jesse with a steal, and Evan misses a three.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 8:19 pm

ToTheLeft wrote:Had to answer an e-mail, and lost track of the action.

16-8 UNCA...

Carter with a turnover, then they turn it back to us.


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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby jcmanson » February 11th, 2010, 8:19 pm

Ohman checks in
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:19 pm

Offensive foul on Stephenson, LU ball, 16-8. JA misses a three, UNCA rebounds. They get a dunk from Cunningham on the other end. 18-8. Kyle Ohman about to check in to the game.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby olldflame » February 11th, 2010, 8:20 pm

Kyle about to check in. Down 18-8 with 11:10 in the half.
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby Sly Fox » February 11th, 2010, 8:21 pm

Do the Bulldogs simply have our number or what?
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Re: Game #25: @ UNCA - UNDERWAY

Postby ToTheLeft » February 11th, 2010, 8:22 pm

Bill Weaver also checks in. He misses a layup. Jesse rebounds. Evan misses a three.

Chris Perez draws a jump ball on the other end. LU ball.
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